Minutes — Procès-verbal
Professional Recognition and Qualifications Committee (PRQC)
Comité sur la reconnaissance professionnelle et les titres de compétence (CRPTC)
Date: Dec 15, 2023
Meeting time: 9:00 AM—5:00 PM ET
Meeting minutes taken by: Coralie Leduc
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Regret: |
Tomas Landry - Chair - SP Michael Pauley - Member - ENG-NB Paul Tsuji - Member - AFS Philip Mantler - Member - AFS Joanne Bouchard - Member - SH David Yazbeck - PIPSC Staff Resource Coralie Leduc - Administrative Assistant
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Jamie GoodMurphy - Member - NREric Lajeunesse - Member - IT Norma Domey - VP - Board Liaison Isabella Paniah - Friend - AFS Gerry Saunders - Friend of the Committee - SH |
Guests: |
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Ryan Campbell - Team Lead, Research |
1. Welcome and Opening Remarks / Mots de bienvenue et d'ouverture
Thomas Landry, Chair of the PRQC, offers welcoming remarks and thanks committee members and the support staff for their active participation and contributions. He recognizes that despite developing a solid workplan, the year was not without challenges.
One of these challenges was the presentation at the Advisory Council, where concerns over the committee’s lack of deliverables and the resistance faced by the board were expressed. Thomas highlights the frustrations caused by the committee’s current structure, whose short-term membership length is ill-suited to provide meaningful deliverables. Although the PQRC did manage to prepare a communiqué at the beginning of the year, it failed to reach the desired audience and to elicit responses. Consequently, the Institute’s President encouraged Thomas to have the committee write a white paper about the value of professionals in the public service for Canadians at large.
Committee members are asked about their experiences presenting at the various regional steward councils. These events are tremendous opportunities to promote professionalism to our members and to receive valuable feedback.
The committee would like to celebrate the successful preparation of three business cases, with the third version supporting some bargaining groups regarding their collective agreement(s). The PQRC had reached out to the steering committee/strategic bargaining committee to work together, although the invitation got lost. The committee is awaiting approval to present to the Board. Ideally, the draft presentation will be approved as soon as possible so that the committee can present the challenges and address them immediately. Since the committee cannot make motions at the PIPSC AGM, suggested motions to resolve these challenges must come from another body. The draft presentation proposed the following motion: Extend committee member term length to more than a year.
Members recognize that, with the new restrictions limiting the total number of in-person meetings per year for board committees, it might become easier for the PRQC to have more frequent meetings, albeit virtually. |
2. Review and approval of Agenda / Examen et approbation de l'ordre du jour
The meeting agenda is reviewed and adopted as presented. |
3. Review and approval of Minutes / Examen et approbation du procès-verbal
The minutes from the September 9 meeting and the July 7 meeting are reviewed and adopted. Once translated, they will be posted on the PRQC webpage. |
3. Update from the Board/EC/ Mise-à-jour du Conseil/CE
A first presentation to the board about extending committee member term length was well-received by the Board. However, multiple efficiency issues remain to be addressed regarding the committees of the Board. Update from the Board is carried forward due to Norma Domey’s absence. The survey is to be designed around three main objectives:
The survey and the committee’s overall objectives are critical to the Institute's well-being, as we represent professions that require adequate maintenance of qualifications and skills. |
4. Presentation to Steward Council - feedback / Présentation au Conseil des délégués syndicaux - résultats
PRQC Presentation for the Regional Steward Councils Fall 2023 Présentation du CRPTC au Conseil des délégués syndicaux regional, automne 2023 +++ Joanne Bouchard - Prairies and NWT Region The presentation was well-received and was followed up by a Q&A period. Members expressed interest in the idea of using performance management as a tool and completing a survey. The importance of factoring in the different realities of the various groups and their employers was strongly communicated. CRA members asked for adequate representation of their respective issues in the survey and the White Paper. This consideration should also be extended to other groups to avoid alienating certain professionals. Young professionals especially were eager to engage with this project and how to further promote professionalism in Canada. A particular point of concern is the difference between employers and professionals in conceptualizing a code of ethics. Phillip Mantler - BC/Yukon Region The presentation was well-received, with stewards posing questions afterwards. Although the feedback was positive, it did not trigger vigorous discussion. Despite members listening attentively, the issue does not seem to be a prime concern for most departments. This is likely a consequence of professionals recognizing the importance of the matter but feeling little agency in addressing it concretely. Nevertheless, many stewards indicated that the PRQC was their first choice and that they wanted to join a committee. Some wording found in the presentation must be modified to be more accurate. +++ As professionals in their field, certain members expressed frustration over managers dictating how to perform professional activities despite their lack of credentials and qualifications for that profession. This problem is further exacerbated in a post-COVID reality where many new managers were introduced. The incoming management might not have received training to develop relationships of trust with their team’s professionals. The more experience one has in the field, the less likely they are to micromanage professionals. For example, a manager with experience in the CRA knows the limited opportunities for significant rewards and will likely know that kindness leads to more results than promises or punishments. Simply put, the impact of management styles on production and delivery should be measured. Performance management sessions are great opportunities for two-way communication where professionals can communicate their preferred management style. Moreover, certain professions' particularities are incompatible with the usual performance evaluation methods. The distinctive nature of professions means that performance evaluations should not help managers meet a certain performance output but rather ensure that professionals are performing their functions according to their profession’s code of conduct. For example, implementing performance improvement plans when workers already meet performance standards is unsuitable. Especially if performance evaluation questionnaires are not designed with the particularities of the profession in mind, the evaluation is unlikely to capture one’s work holistically. Performance evaluation questionnaires should:
A similar sentiment is shared by professionals outside the NCR, where challenges diverge from those faced centrally. |
5. Survey / Sondage
The committee reviews the preliminary draft for the survey drafted by Ryan Campbell, lead of PIPSC’s research team.
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6. Review and discussion / Révision et discussion
The current timeline for the White Paper is to have a final draft ready by the end of 2024 using the results of the survey in the fall.
Next steps/action plan:
Closing remarks
Thomas thanks Mike Pauley for attending nearly (if not) all PRQC meetings in the past year and encourages Phillip to see if he can stay on the PRQC as a friend of the committee.
David commends Thomas for his efforts to publicize this committee and hopes that this clear action plan will be able to maintain the momentum the PRQC has generated. |
7. Meeting adjourned.